{"id":37,"date":"2006-03-11T16:31:34","date_gmt":"2006-03-11T21:31:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/weeklyrob.dreamhosters.com\/?p=37"},"modified":"2006-03-11T16:31:34","modified_gmt":"2006-03-11T21:31:34","slug":"37","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/?p=37","title":{"rendered":"Civil War (Not Iraq)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><code><\/code><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; line-height: 20px; padding-top: 0pt\" class=\"paragraph Body\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\">The new movie, The <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rottentomatoes.com\/m\/csa_the_confederate_states_of_america\/\" style=\"font-weight: normal; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\">Confederate States of America<\/a><span style=\"font-weight: normal; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\">, has gotten some press. I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen it, and I guess I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t REALLY care about seeing it (with several reviewers saying that the best thing about it is the concept), but it did remind me of my own weird little questions about the outcome of the Civil War.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; line-height: 20px; padding-top: 0pt\" class=\"paragraph Body\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">So, since this is my first entry, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll go ahead and say all the stuff that has to be said:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not racist. I believe that people of all races should have the right to an even playing field; I believe that given such a field, some people of all races will do well on it and some people of all races will not do as well. I believe in civil rights absolutely. I believe that slavery (and particularly the slavery practiced in the Americas by Europeans) was one of the most despicable and horrific institutions ever created. Yup.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">All that has nothing to do with my questions about the war. Stuff like: Was it worth it? Why did they fight? Were the Southerners really complete monsters, only fighting to maintain white supremecy? Were the Northerners noble knights fighting for justice?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; line-height: 20px\" class=\"paragraph Body\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\">I added the bit about \u00e2\u20ac\u0153monsters\u00e2\u20ac\u009d because I recently read Sarah Vowell\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s book, <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0743260031\/104-3536566-7841522\" style=\"font-weight: normal; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" title=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0743260031\/104-3536566-7841522\">Assassination Vacation<\/a><span style=\"font-weight: normal; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\">, in which she idly wonders how Jefferson Davis could sleep at night. Not gonna bother with that now, \u00e2\u20ac\u02dccause it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll already be an annoyingly long post to ask the big question:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; line-height: 20px\" class=\"paragraph Body\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; font: 14px\/20px 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; text-transform: none; color: #000000; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; letter-spacing: 0px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">Was it worth it?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; font: 14px\/20px 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; text-transform: none; color: #000000; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; letter-spacing: 0px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">Without bothering to look up the numbers, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m pretty sure that a lot of people died in the Civil War. Like, a LOT. And not just in the war, mind you, but after the war, when southern cities were destroyed, crops were devastated (crops are always getting devastated in wars), and the labor force was reduced. I really want to look up the numbers now, but I won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">There were a couple of stated reasons to go to war, but only one is remembered by the average yokel (i.e., high school history teacher). Screw \u00e2\u20ac\u0153a house divided cannot stand\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and such; everyone on the street knows that the war was to end slavery.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">But, and here\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s where people start to call me names, wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t slavery have ended anyway in a generation or so? [That movie I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen plays as if it were conceivable that slavery would still exist, condoned by a modern government, in 2006. But I ain\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t buying it.]<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">I know that slavery still exists, but it no longer exists with the authority of any government on the planet. At least, not any government that any OTHER government would trade with. And though I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not sure when the last country stopped allowing slavery, I bet it wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t much past the end of the Civil War.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">So my guess is that 20-50 years later, there would have been no slavery in the south. I know what you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re thinking, 20-50 years of slavery is a disgusting thing to allow. How could decent people allow it for even a day?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">But the North, and the US, HAD allowed it since the very beginning. And they weren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t about to stop it if there weren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t a war. The idea was to stop new states from having slavery, and the tide would have turned against the South soon enough. But not immediately. It wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t as though Lincoln got into office saying that he would end slavery, right-quick.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">So now we have to weigh the deaths of X amount of people (from North and South), plus the destruction of land and resources on a scale that some hicks are STILL pissed off about it, against continuing the horrible practice of slavery for another generation or two. The South would have eventually been brought into line, because eventually no one would deal with a country on that scale of repugnance. And the North may have grown strong enough eventually to force it without arms.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">So I think it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s worth asking the question whether it was worth it. Oh, were you expecting an answer? Sorry.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; color: #000000; line-height: 20px; font-family: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'; opacity: 1.00\" class=\"paragraph Body\"><a href=\"http:\/\/weeklyrob.dreamhosters.com\/?p=38\">My follow-up to this post<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The new movie, The Confederate States of America, has gotten some press. I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen it, and I guess I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t REALLY care about seeing it (with several reviewers saying that the best thing about it is the concept), but it did remind me of my own weird little questions about the outcome of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-history","category-humanity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=37"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=37"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=37"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/weeklyrob.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=37"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}